John Magnum talked about the rates in gay porn & why it went down due to Fabscout (tip @ Estelle)

John Magnum sent this comment at Mike South's blog about the rates of gay porn stars.


John_magnum_01I don’t have an agent anymore. I used to be represented by Fabscout which is based in Ft. Lauderdale but dropped them after realizing they were facilitating the decrease in scene rates for their models and since they represent the majority of gay performers, it impacted the whole industry. This might sound like hogwash so I will explain. Fabscout receives payment from the porn companies they book there models with, on average $500 each. Then take a % from the models check, 10-20%. If they play ball with the companies and tell the models $1500 is the best offer, they make more off sheer volume from the companies. They have no incentive to negotiate for the models since 10% of a $500 increase in model pay is only $50 to the agent. Like I said, when I started it was $3000 minimum, after signing w Fabscout my rate fell to $1500 immediately. But since it was a multiple scene deal I made more and took the bait. That’s my fault. By the time I dropped them the industry standard was $1000/scene. I found all this out because I asked the producer why I was getting paid so little and was informed that if they didn’t have to pay Fabscout $500 a model they could afford to pay the models more. I immediately fired my agent and went freelance. Unfortunately, the damage was done and once you lower your scene rate you can’t raise it and expect to continue getting work. I explained all this because few know any of this. Especially since many gay companies forbid you from telling other performers your scene rate. I’ve got emails to back that up.

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50 thoughts on “John Magnum talked about the rates in gay porn & why it went down due to Fabscout (tip @ Estelle)

  1. I have read that porn is a Billion dollar industry. Some people are getting very rich on porn and it sure isn’t the models. It is an outrage that their pay is so low.

  2. The industry is suffering death blows from all directions. Internet pirating. The abundance of free content offered out there. The boom of competition from any amateur with a cam.
    The era of the mega-porn star is gone. Gay4payers used to command impressive rates, but now any straight man with a sizeable dick who’s hard up for cash is willing to do porn. The stigma has been largely removed, and this means that seasoned performers like Magnum will not be getting payed what they used to.
    It’s probably best that he and others find more legit sources to supplement their income. Porn can no longer be anyone’s bread and butter, unless you’re a SeanCody or the like.

  3. Magnum’s rate was probably the highest at Sean Cody-which was 3,000
    But as you progress into the industry, which he choose, the rates fluctuate according to what your do’s/don’ts and how much you bring into the company.
    When Magnum worked with Sean Cody-it was assumed he was a straight man, going gay, thus affected the rate he would be paid.
    As he progressed into porn, he bottomed more which became his staple…in porn those who are considered “gay” and enjoying the work are going to be paid less.
    Which is ridiculous, because the person bottoming is taking more risks with infections.
    But he has been in this game for so long, and bottomed so much, there is no negotiating ploy.
    Plus, his reputation in escort causes some decreased value too.
    So, there is some inconsistencies in his story.

  4. You hit the nail right on its head, E.J. Rates have been going down for quite some years now and that is not because of any agent.

  5. E.J., that pretty much says it all. Porn is just the advertisement anyway, they make their money from escorting.

  6. Porn is everywhere and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to try and make a buck. That’s the way things are now. Companies need to be saavy if they want to stay afloat and get people to pay for the content they make.
    Whilst it is a reduction in what they use to make, $1500 (on average) a scene is still a nice amount of money to earn especially when you consider that straight male performers generally make half of this for their respective scenes.
    Besides most performers still hold down jobs. Those that rely on the industry as a primary form of income should probably be looking to get themselves a regular job. Porn should be seen as supplementary cash not actual income.

  7. “Too Many Hands Spoil the Soup”…and the same applies to the Adult Industry. Everyone wants a hand in the cookie-jar,..at the expense of the hard-working Porn-Star.
    True-Business-Tactics when the emphasis is on Profitability. 🙁 🙁
    Glad that John M. wised-up and dumped his Agent. 🙂 🙂

  8. It isn’t like anybody is going to hire John Magnum anymore anyway – he had to transition to bareback tgirl porn because it’s the closest he can get to get paid fucking a girl and gay porn studios are done with him – he’s been around for what, several years now? His glory days were with SC and NDS, but there’s bigger and better looking bottoms now.

  9. At the beginning at Sean Cody John stated he was Bi and talked about his hook-up’s with men and women. He never played it “Str8” or G4P. It’s interesting to breakdown the whole porn business side. People are struggling to make it as models and companies are trying to stay afloat when 2 str8 guys started a company that was very successful – AusinZane was a runaway success and they just tanked it.

  10. Then all the more reason why not to depend on porn as a primary source of income if you’re a performer………

  11. You made a good point, something I suspected before–That straight gay4payers are offered more money than actual gay men in porn. Essentially, even in our own porn we are second class citizens? smh.

  12. The thing is I think all of them lie when they get interviewed at SC, CF, RB etc
    Mason Wyler said he was straight…lie. He’s gay
    Jeremy Bilding said he was bi….lie. He was G4P.
    The gays pretend to be straight to get more money. The straight ones pretend to be Bi not to alienate their fans. The Bi ones are in denial about being Bi and make up bullshit terms like pansexual or “just sexual” or “sexually greedy”.
    They’re all lying for very different reasons.

  13. It’s simply economics. You get paid market rates. This is the same for all professions. I don’t have any sympathy for someone whining about their pay. Gay porn is ridiculously over priced as it is compared to straight porn. If you don’t like it, the solution is simple… get another job.

  14. As if a few HUNDRED dollars is “supplemental” !!?! – they could make more working weekends at the gym as a trainer.

  15. Porn and escorting go pretty much hand in hand for these guys. For most, it’s just advertising for their escorting, which is what brings in the real money for them.

  16. I wish more and more beautiful and physically fit young men would refuse to do gay porn at such ridiculously low wages. If guys like Stu are not making $5,000.00 a scene, they are being cheated, big time. To put it in perspective, Celine Dion just sold one of her houses for 72 million dollars Unbelievable. We would be left to watch the trolls have sex. Maybe the better Porn Studios would up the salaries. If not, so be it. We would have to go back to the clubs more often looking for real hookups. If gay porn can’t afford to pay quality models excellent salaries they should die!!!

  17. Gay porn models need a union and gay porn viewers who will boycott Studios that don’t treat their models fairly.

  18. Well he also said this:
    johnmagnumxxxreplied:
    View 1 day ago Impossible he contracted it at kink. 1st of all, I shot with him in July and we were both tested, clean. 2nd, who he shot with at kink (a transexual) I shot with the day Cameron tested positive. We were both tested, clean, and it was a bareback scene for evil angel. Since then me and her (TS) have both tested multiple times and have came up clean. The crazy thing is, FSC did not contact either of us. We found out through the grapevine. I’m not going to comment on the implications of them not contacting us. So it’s most likely he contracted it from Cameron after she was exposed. And as far as us gay performers working with other performers who are HIV+. I have never knowingly worked with anyone who is + and never would. I have found out after the fact and was PISSED. Unfortunately the gay side doesn’t require testing, except for Men.com which is Manwin owned. I wish it was different but we have no collective bargaining rights as performers, we’re fragmented and the str8 side segregates against the gay side. I’d love to switch over to str8 but since I’ve done gay I can’t. And only started it because at the time it was $3,000/scene minimum. Compared to $350/scene for str8 it’s a no brainer….
    dodogoodmanreplied:
    View 1 day ago John magnum you like rod daily regularly put up escort ads on rentboy.com do you really think female talent would work with you knowing that. You essentially insulted your gay fans by saying you don’t want to do gay porn anymore. I saw the straight work you did with jake cruise, I doubt you would last that long. The only sites that were paying anywhere near $3k are Sean Cody Corbin fisher and maybe randy blue 5 years ago.
    johnmagnumxxxreplied:
    I won’t argue with that.

  19. “If gay porn can’t afford to pay quality models excellent salaries they should die!!!”
    How wholesome of you to say. Why don’t you go eat some turds courtesy of some of those wholesome Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher guys who deserve 5 grand a scene.

  20. Well a few hundred is better than a kick in the stomach and a slap to the back of the head and not all pornstars have got what it takes to be a trainer.

  21. MOST of the guys who do videos for SC, CF, BSB, Bel Ami, RB, College Dudes and a host of other Porn Studios do not escort. That’s a fact Jack!

  22. WRONG! Most of the guys who do gay porn for SC, RB, CF, Bel Ami, BSB AND a host of other gay porn sites do not escort!!!

  23. John Magnum is a beautiful muscular guy who many people will pay money to see have hot guy on guy sex. His face is stunningly beautiful and his bubble butt is to die for. If you don’t see that get yourself to the nearest eye doctor.

  24. “I don’t have any sympathy for someone whining about their pay”. Of course you don’t. You are a pig who is only interested in his own gratification. You are disgusting and you don’t even know it.

  25. Did you see when I wrote “For most”? Guess not. And after their “elite” porn (the studios where guys dont escort) “3000/scene” days are over, what do you think these guys do? There are tons of posts on this very blog that show how many of these dudes are whoring on Rentboy and the like, not counting the tricks they turn in real life without websites.

  26. Did you see where I wrote: “Most of the guys who work for SC, CF, RB, Bel Ami, BSB and a host of other sites, do not escort”. I guess not. Learn To READ.

  27. I was responding to CN and not to the likes of you. How can I put this asshole? FUCK YOU. You are a disgusting negative hater. I guess you were BORN THAT WAY!!!

  28. I couldn’t care less what morons like you, Gerry, EJ and a few others post. Most of what you guys post shows me that you have no respect for the models whose scenes you use to pleasure yourself. That says a whole lot about your lack of character. Deal with it!!!

  29. Take time away from pushing your BB Agenda to learn to read. I was comparing their financial compensation. That’s all. You still haven’t given us a single name of a health care provider who deals with the transmission and treatment of HIV/Aids who agrees with your BB agenda. Give us a name so that we can be sure that you are not risking the lifelong health of these models just for your own gratification.

  30. Your vulgar comments show very clearly that you have no respect for the models that you use to pleasure yourself. You are beneath contempt.

  31. What is your point? Do you like eating turds? That would explain your aversion to beautiful, wholesome, quality guy on guy sex as seen on SC, CF, RB, BSB, College Dudes, Bel Ami and a host of other quality gay porn sites. If you don’t think that they deserve AT LEAST $5,000.00 dollars a scene, you are probably a closeted Republican who thinks that ordinary people should get paid low wages to satisfy your high living lifestyle. You are simply a creep.

  32. Please ignore the likes of DEAN. He doesn’t really like or have any respect for the many fine young guys whose videos he uses to get off on. He is just an uncaring and selfish user!

  33. Andrew many of the guys from those studios do escort. It’s called UTR ( under the radar) and its very prevalent. A lot of them also have sugar daddies.

  34. A good number may lie. A lot of companies lie look at Dirk Yates and Active Duty. Those are all not military men. But, to say ALL of them lie is not a statement anyone can honestly make.
    John also said his mom is a lesbian. I see no reason for him to lie about that.

  35. He didn’t NEED to transition to working with T-Girls. He has been doing it for years. He tops and bottoms. He has also done many T-Girl scenes with Kink. They happen to produce str8 content also and I have never seen him do a str8 scene there and he could if he wanted to do them. Christian Wilde works for kink at their gay and Str8 sites. Bound In Public,Bound Gods and Naked Kombat which are their gay video part. He has worked in their Bound Gangbang site which is str8. Christian or anyone else have no issue with this. I would guess that he doesn’t want to do T-Girl scenes because he doesn’t want to do them.

  36. I know how to read very well, but it seems you’re the one with reading comprehension problems. Read my post again, then think about it for a little, and you’ll see where you went wrong. Okay sir?

  37. Oh no, don’t say that about his beloved SC, CF, etc. boys. That’s simply NOT true, according to andrew.

  38. No, the turds are for you, my friend. Wholesome, high quality, grade-A turds straight from those great young physically fit guys! All for you!
    The pay for these guys should ultimately be determined by the quality of their work, not a fixed rate based on their looks alone or sexuality, or their long list of do’s and mostly don’ts. I don’t watch porn from any of the shit studios you listed, but I do know that their scenes aren’t hot to me, and obviously I’m in the minority.

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